Pokernator 3000

[Steve]

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Okay, listen to this. You know how the current chances chart compares your hand against all other possible holdem hands and gives you your chances of winning? Well, what would you think if I created a second chart thats compares it against all other playable holdem hands. I.E. only high cards, suited connecters, pocket pairs, etc. Let's take it a step further. The program will ask you how much the pot was raised preflop, then compares your hand only against relevant hands. For example, if the pot wasn't raised preflop... its very unlikely someone has pocket rockets. So the hands your hand is compared to would exclude such monsters as pocket kings, pocket aces, big slick in an unraised pot. Conversely, in a pot that was raised a huge amount... someone isn't going to hold onto 54 suited. So those piddly hands would be removed from the pool of hands to compare to your hand.

I think this idea has amazing potential. Its just a matter of deciding on what hands are in which grouping. There will be 4 levels of preflop raise... high, medium, low, and none. Of course pocket rockets would be in high, suited connectors would be in medium to none. Those are easy... but what about toughies like Q8 offsuit... probably in low to none. I'm gonna draft this and put it up for criticism.

Here is the first draft...


Huge raise

Any pocket pair Ts and above
AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, QJ

Large raise

Any pocket pair
Any card combination of ten and above

Moderate raise
Any pocket pair
Any card combination of ten and above
Ace and lower card suited
Suited connectors

Low/limp in raise
Any pocket pair below Ts
Any card combination 9 and above (minus AK, AQ, AJ, KQ)
Ace and lower card unsuited
Suited connectors

This is tricky business... I'm not confident at all in these classifications. The kind of play I want to emulate is a strong player. Do you think the way this is laid out simulates a strong player?

[PuMa]

Yeah i guess that sounds like a strong player...but I dont get it. What are you trying to do?

[Steve]

Check out the news item for April 6th.

Instead of comparing your hand against every other possible holdem hand. It will compare it against a subset of holdem hands depending on the preflop raise. What I listed was the subset for each preflop raise.

[PuMa]

This feature sounds really cool....AND a lot like the one i proposed to you a while back. The only drawback is that it is following one set style of play, and there are obviously many different styles of players. My earlier idea was to somehow allow for the input of another (or several depending upon how many opponents are in any given hand with you). This way you can input what you think your opponent might have and find out their statistics and chances of winning or drawing a card and compare them to yours. Your new idea sounds very similar and just as useful, but like I said previously, it assumes a certain play style.....

[TastyCakes]

I think it could be very useful against the right oppostion. It would definatly be interesting to see the results.

[Steve]

I dunno, puma and I were discussing. There are so many different styles of play that "relevant" hands may be impossible... I'm starting to lean back to "playable" hands. I'm still open to suggestions though.